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Hello again, sorry for the absence

by LaniB in

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hello to all, sorry i haven't been around for a while.

almost lost my hubby last year to illness so i've had limited time on the computer and just tended to log on to do the quiz.

i've just logged back into a few messages.. looking forward to catching up with everyone.

By their deeds you shall know them - aka JW's who aint that christian

by LaniB in

firstly some background.. when i was 21 i went to live in sydney and left my congregation in tasmania.

until then i had never seen the bad side of the borg.

being new in town and staying with my non jw sibling i immediately checked in with the local congregation and soon found a fellow witness to share an apartment with.

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and soon found a fellow witness to share an apartment with. She had moved down from the country, elder's daughter, aux pioneer

and me with only my sister in the "truth". Bad move from the start.

Umm, I wasn’t an aux pioneer, never had pioneered at that stage.

Secondly, my dad wasn’t an elder, hadn’t been since the 70s when my mum was sick with cancer. So I don't know where you're getting

your story from.

My flatmate got very friendly with an elder and his family who I will now call Mr Friendly Elder (or FE) who her dad had asked

to make sure she settled in well.

Another lie, Ellani. My dad had nothing to do with my moving to Sydney. In fact, at that stage my dad and I weren’t even talking, so I don’t

know where you got the idea that my Dad had anything to do with FE or anyone else.

I got ill and was having trouble making it to evening meetings as I was coming home from work, having dinner and going straight to

bed

(some nights didn't even make it to dinner) but, or so I told myself, Jehovah will understand and I still make Sunday meetings.

But you were healthy enough to go and see “Last of the Mohicans” about 20 times in the city whereas you lived and worked in the

suburbs???? I saw your movie tickets which you left around the flat, because you never bothered to clean up after yourself.

And you often cooked dinner, but chose not to wash up, remember? I remember when my sister came to visit she was disgusted by your

lack of cleanliness in the flat.

Her MS hubby looked me straight in the eyes and said "You didn't hear it from me but there are some rumours circulating about you"

and

proceeded to tell me what FE was implying about me. I finally worked out that apparently everytime my lovely flatmate did something

questionable she blamed it on me.

Not sure what you’re talking about there. I never lied about you.

For example she'd mention a some scene in a movie she'd watched while I was in bed/out/at work or some album she'd listened to.

Someone would query about why she had watched it/listened to it and she'd immediately say "Oh I didn't do it, Lani insisted on doing

it. I was out doing the laundry/studying/cooking and I couldn't help it."

Well yes, you watched movies that I never would have considered watching. In the flat. While I was there. So there was no lying. You’re

just trying to make yourself look innocent. You were the one watching M-rated (In the USA, they’re rated as R) movies. And you had

music that I as a born-in JW would never had listened to.

After a few months of this the sister I was living with announced she was moving in with FE and his family. I was left with a place I

couldn't afford. I was tired, ill and I really missed my former congregation and my sister so I decided to go home. To help me out in

leaving quickly my soon to be former flatmate and FE offered to store my furniture because he told me he was having a garage sale

and he would forward the money on to me. Silly innocent me believed him and went home.

Ummm, for months you were talking about going back to Tasmania. So I had to look for somewhere else to live. Nothing scandalous

there.

I have no idea about the story of storing your furniture. I had nothing to do with that.

About four weeks later I got a call from former flatmate regarding the bills for the place, power and phone. It was about $75. Knowing

how much my furniture was worth (lounge suite, television, bed, wardrobe, dresser, table and chairs, microwave) I said well take the

money out of the money you got from the sale and send me the remainder. I got told that flatmate decided to keep it as I had

abandoned it, they said they never were planning a garage sale.

Umm, because you phoned home (Tassie) every night, your share of the phone bill was $200, not $75.

I paid you for the lounge suite. The television was mine. The table and chairs I took because we didn’t know what you wanted to do with

them. The dirty old mattress you let behind was taken by FE but I don’t think they kept it because of the condition it was in. The wardrobe

and dresser I don’t recall.

I do recall the horrible mess you left in the middle of the lounge room, which really disgusted me. You had no intention of taking out the

garbage bags, the old dirty clothes or the miscellaneous things you didn’t want. You just left them there for me to take care of, even

though I was in the middle of moving myself.

Nice huh.

Yeah.

I refused. I said it is worth at least $500 if not more. FE then said either I paid the money or they would keep my reading glasses that

I had left behind accidently in the dresser. I refused again.

Well, I was stupid enough to send you your portion of the rental bond without deducting the amount of your phone bill. That was a stupid

thing to do.

Well to cut what is probably now a really long story a little shorter that my friends is how I was responsible for an Elder being publicly

stood down.

Really? So it had nothing to do with the problems that were going on in the congregation you chose to stop associating with? You don’t

know as much as you think.

Didn't last long though. Apparently he was reinstated as an elder within a year or two.

Actually, it was a lot longer than that, but since you had no contact with the congregation anymore, you wouldn’t have a clue what was really going on.

After all, lying to your brothers, character assignation and stealing arn't so bad now... are they.

You do a pretty good job of it yourself!

But that was when I first started to see the true side of the borg.

Good for you!!!

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Do you still pray? Why?

by gubberningbody in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ilzaaami.

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uazdcs-rmf4.

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As a witness, I used to pray.

Until one day I stopped in mid-prayer, with the realisation that no one was listening. Since then, I haven’t prayed.

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Re-instatement

by hotspur in

can anybody show me in any bible that, to be re-instated, i need to humiliate myself for at least 6 months?.

what's that all about?

in fact, that is high my list of 1001 reasons i'd never go back!.

Exactly. They’re not interested in you as a person, because for those 6 months (at least!) you’ll be considered a non-person who has to sit at the back, alone, no matter what is going on in your life.

They claim that doing so, shows your heart condition. Rather, it shows how compliant you are to organizational demands.

Instead, the Bible talks about love and forgiveness. But we know the WTS isn’t really interested in what the Bible says .

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Cheating in the Congregation

by EXMS in

how often does anyone see cheating happening throughout the congregation?.

reason that i ask this is because it happened to me.

in this three years things seemed to go great.

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Ok, that makes more sense!

I find it amazing that she found the time to date another guy while pioneering and dating you at the same time.

Sorry your feelings were hurt like that. If that’s the kind of person she is, it’s just as well you didn’t get stuck being married to her.

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Cheating in the Congregation

by EXMS in

how often does anyone see cheating happening throughout the congregation?.

reason that i ask this is because it happened to me.

in this three years things seemed to go great.

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So although you were still both single, you both moved to Alaska to pioneer?

I’ve never heard that one before.

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Phil Hayworth

by why144000 in

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hi.

does anyone remember a co from the '70s in australia called phil hayward?

he still has some tapes of his talks doing the rounds.

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The name rings a bell but I was just a kid during the 70s.

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Let's have the book study at your house.

by transhuman68 in

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my sister moved to a affluent suburb in a capital city less than five years ago; and rented a small detatched unit and got a full-time job.

i visited her a couple of years ago, and was surprised to find the tuesday night meeting was held there every week.

at the time i thought it was an 'honour' bestowed upon her for all her years as a regular pioneer: but later i started wondering why, in a suburb with so many big prestige houses and families, would she be chosen to host the book study?

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You think the affluent JWs in the area don’t want their nice homes sullied by constant visitors?

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Terry's Amazing Stories

by Blue Grass in

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am i the only one who think's a lot of the amazing stories terry come up with are fabricated or completely untrue?

every week he tells us how he by chance ran into a jw, mormon, evangilcial, etc.

and comes up with witty answers every time to counter every point they make and than have them running in fear.

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Yes, how dare Blue Grass question one of the elders. Who does s/he think they are???

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Sexual Repression 101. Pure WT Gold: Wednesday's Daily Text.

by Open mind in

wednesday's daily text was a masterpiece.

each sentence just added another layer of sexual guilt and repression.

i could go off for at least another 500 words but i'll stop.. .

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Another scenario….

The guy is too small to satisfy the wife, and because of their strict JW beliefs they don’t believe in mutual masturbation or oral sex….